On one of the message boards I frequent a question of how to develop "Direct Sexual" game came up. Now personally I've been paring down elements of what I do in relation to girls, discarding what doesn't work and keeping what does. My $0.02 from that discussion board follows:
Sunday, May 4, 2008
Velvet Room
Time/Date
Saturday, 05/03/08, 10:30pm - 2:00am
Location
Velvet Room, K-Town
Logistics
Rolling with some new Korean friends
The shizzle that went bizzle
Asian girls, by and large, are socially inept. God bless 'em and all that, but man, I've had better connections with a wall than I've gotten with the girls tonight...
I was invited out by some new Korean friends I made to a booking club here in Koreatown called Velvet Room. Now, for those of you that aren't familiar with booking clubs, this is how they work:
In Korean culture it's more "proper" to be introduced by a stranger to someone else than to cold approach and booking clubs exemplify this to a horrific degree. The idea is that you rent a table or booth for the evening and your waiter can "book" girls to come to your table, drink your alcohol, eat your decorate fruit platter, and/or talk with you. Now, by "book" I mean forcibly drag girls that aren't necessarily willing to your table of dudes. The waiters earn tips for the girls that they book for you-- more traffic = more money for him/her.
TOTALLY not my style. :-\
Now this particular booking club was actually pretty fly-- the interior is large and it's FULL of tables and booths. There's a large dance floor in the middle, private rooms in the back, and a smoking patio on the side.
The environment is LOUD. Imagine the loudest club you've ever been to, then pump it up another 15% in decibel-levels. As you can imagine this makes any verbal game a near impossibility, never mind the potential language barriers.
The girls are HOT. I know many of you may think that Asian girls have no ass and no boobs, but one look at the talent here and it'd prove you wrong VERY quickly. All the girls are dressed to the 9's and tend to travel in packs for safety.
Now, in terms of my results, here's how it went down for me:
0 for 25 for the evening, with only ONE girl even potentially hooking (but it was at the end of the night and she was there with some dudes and her girl friends waiting for their cars).
Did I mention that Asian girls are socially inept? :-\
Direct Game didn't pan out for me because of the environment-- all the waiters manhandle the girls there, so things like opening with kino or going Direct are an uphill battle because the girls will just lump you into the "drunk asshole" category fairly quickly.
Situational stuff didn't pan out either-- even in the smoking patio where I could actually talk only two girls were receptive and those shut down with the quickness once their friends got involved. Every other set was cooooold. Frigid. Even when I came in friendly, I got shut down faster than a... a... I don't even have a word for it. Frustration City.
The only avenue that I think can bear any fruit in this environment--
Dance Floor Game.
The girls seemed more receptive on the dance floor when I went to shake my groove thing but I had to tend to my friends more often than not which dragged me off the floor. I'm willing to explore this angle more for this environment since all my other usual tactics bore no fruit.
If you want to meet Asian girls at night, I DO NOT recommend this type of venue. Everything is working against you. The only reason I'd go back is to explore Dance Floor Game and see what that bears.
What I did good
I walked out of dead/dying sets very quickly. When girls copped attitude I just shut down the interaction and went on to the next group. I stretched my dancing muscles a bit and learned a little more about just not giving a fuck on the dance floor.
I made some new connections with Korean guys that are familiar with K-Town. We'll see how those pan out.
What I could've done better
Danced more?
Extra comments
I gotta say I'm a little bit more disillusioned about Asian girls now after this night. A SHIT-TON of work for little return in this environment and just in general. I personally don't have the time nor inclination to work the social circle angle.
Time to start checking out more racially-diverse environments.
Saturday, 05/03/08, 10:30pm - 2:00am
Location
Velvet Room, K-Town
Logistics
Rolling with some new Korean friends
The shizzle that went bizzle
Asian girls, by and large, are socially inept. God bless 'em and all that, but man, I've had better connections with a wall than I've gotten with the girls tonight...
I was invited out by some new Korean friends I made to a booking club here in Koreatown called Velvet Room. Now, for those of you that aren't familiar with booking clubs, this is how they work:
In Korean culture it's more "proper" to be introduced by a stranger to someone else than to cold approach and booking clubs exemplify this to a horrific degree. The idea is that you rent a table or booth for the evening and your waiter can "book" girls to come to your table, drink your alcohol, eat your decorate fruit platter, and/or talk with you. Now, by "book" I mean forcibly drag girls that aren't necessarily willing to your table of dudes. The waiters earn tips for the girls that they book for you-- more traffic = more money for him/her.
TOTALLY not my style. :-\
Now this particular booking club was actually pretty fly-- the interior is large and it's FULL of tables and booths. There's a large dance floor in the middle, private rooms in the back, and a smoking patio on the side.
The environment is LOUD. Imagine the loudest club you've ever been to, then pump it up another 15% in decibel-levels. As you can imagine this makes any verbal game a near impossibility, never mind the potential language barriers.
The girls are HOT. I know many of you may think that Asian girls have no ass and no boobs, but one look at the talent here and it'd prove you wrong VERY quickly. All the girls are dressed to the 9's and tend to travel in packs for safety.
Now, in terms of my results, here's how it went down for me:
0 for 25 for the evening, with only ONE girl even potentially hooking (but it was at the end of the night and she was there with some dudes and her girl friends waiting for their cars).
Did I mention that Asian girls are socially inept? :-\
Direct Game didn't pan out for me because of the environment-- all the waiters manhandle the girls there, so things like opening with kino or going Direct are an uphill battle because the girls will just lump you into the "drunk asshole" category fairly quickly.
Situational stuff didn't pan out either-- even in the smoking patio where I could actually talk only two girls were receptive and those shut down with the quickness once their friends got involved. Every other set was cooooold. Frigid. Even when I came in friendly, I got shut down faster than a... a... I don't even have a word for it. Frustration City.
The only avenue that I think can bear any fruit in this environment--
Dance Floor Game.
The girls seemed more receptive on the dance floor when I went to shake my groove thing but I had to tend to my friends more often than not which dragged me off the floor. I'm willing to explore this angle more for this environment since all my other usual tactics bore no fruit.
If you want to meet Asian girls at night, I DO NOT recommend this type of venue. Everything is working against you. The only reason I'd go back is to explore Dance Floor Game and see what that bears.
What I did good
I walked out of dead/dying sets very quickly. When girls copped attitude I just shut down the interaction and went on to the next group. I stretched my dancing muscles a bit and learned a little more about just not giving a fuck on the dance floor.
I made some new connections with Korean guys that are familiar with K-Town. We'll see how those pan out.
What I could've done better
Danced more?
Extra comments
I gotta say I'm a little bit more disillusioned about Asian girls now after this night. A SHIT-TON of work for little return in this environment and just in general. I personally don't have the time nor inclination to work the social circle angle.
Time to start checking out more racially-diverse environments.
Monday, April 28, 2008
Openers and Closure
This day started pretty shitty.
I had to attend to work-related stuff pretty much from morning 'til early evening and it didn't put me in my Happy Place. After getting a massage (a legitimate one, you pervs) and relaxing in the apartment for a hot second I was idling at neutral, which was an improvement. ch0ng0 rolled through in the early evening and we went to grub at Hodori before starting out on the evening's adventures with the rest of the crew.
The original plan had us looking for some fun times in K-Town, but unfortunately those fun times come with a $$$ pricetag that none of us were willing to pay. As fate should have it the suggestion of J Lounge was agreeable to most everyone so that is where the Universe directed us.
After working some doorman magic (credit to D for the tips on how to get in without hassle) we slide in. Now it turns out this evening had a strong theme of openers and closure, which I'll explain thusly:
Openers
I'm not much of one for routine monkeying, but I do have some favorite lines that give me fodder to banter about. One of my favorite ones is pretty simple and works with savvy chicks:
ME: Hey, there you are! :-D
Ya, that's it. Impressive, I know. ;-)
The power lies in its simplicity and it opened one pair of girls like gangbusters. This pair of black girls that were staring at the huge TV projection on the wall of the building were fun, and I had ch0ng0 there to wing me.
I did my thing with the shorter of the two; there definitely was attraction on her part but I couldn't push things to a deeper level because she kept going on about her business (and the fact that I was a Web Dev and she needed one). Got the contact info, chatted a bit more, then bounced.
Closure
That girl from the prior post, M., showed up this particular evening as well with her roommate and other friends. She actually greeted me while I was standing at the bar waiting for drinks, but her hug was distant and polite. Hrrmm. Worthy of investigation, considering that she had been basically unresponsive to my texts earlier in the week.
Fast-forward the evening to later and I run into her group in the outdoor lounge area. Talk with her and come to find out she had just broken up with her BF this past week, which explained A LOT of the minor details I'd noticed in our prior encounter.
Fast-forward to the end of the evening. I run into her leaving J Lounge and ask her what she's up to this week, to which she says, "Right now is not a good time." Understandable, given the information I'd just gleaned, so I told her that once that drama stabilizes itself to call me, after which I bid her adieu. About all that can be done and still leave the window open for future encounters.
What you did well
My kinoescalation was on-point tonight.
My banter was en fuego.
I kept my cool with M., even in light of the breaking-up information. That's the only way to play that situation, even though it was difficult to remain outcome independent.
What you did wrong and could have done better
With the black chick I should've insta-dated sooner. There was a lull about 15 minutes into the conversation where I was trying to move her to a couch, but right as I was suggesting it her friend jumped in about having to get back to their friends.
Extra Comments
I thought this was classy of M.: While meeting her friends I finally got introduced to her roommate the weed-smoker. When her roommate asked if I was the same J____ that almost schtupt'd her last week M. said, "No that was a different J____".
I had to attend to work-related stuff pretty much from morning 'til early evening and it didn't put me in my Happy Place. After getting a massage (a legitimate one, you pervs) and relaxing in the apartment for a hot second I was idling at neutral, which was an improvement. ch0ng0 rolled through in the early evening and we went to grub at Hodori before starting out on the evening's adventures with the rest of the crew.
The original plan had us looking for some fun times in K-Town, but unfortunately those fun times come with a $$$ pricetag that none of us were willing to pay. As fate should have it the suggestion of J Lounge was agreeable to most everyone so that is where the Universe directed us.
After working some doorman magic (credit to D for the tips on how to get in without hassle) we slide in. Now it turns out this evening had a strong theme of openers and closure, which I'll explain thusly:
Openers
I'm not much of one for routine monkeying, but I do have some favorite lines that give me fodder to banter about. One of my favorite ones is pretty simple and works with savvy chicks:
ME: Hey, there you are! :-D
Ya, that's it. Impressive, I know. ;-)
The power lies in its simplicity and it opened one pair of girls like gangbusters. This pair of black girls that were staring at the huge TV projection on the wall of the building were fun, and I had ch0ng0 there to wing me.
I did my thing with the shorter of the two; there definitely was attraction on her part but I couldn't push things to a deeper level because she kept going on about her business (and the fact that I was a Web Dev and she needed one). Got the contact info, chatted a bit more, then bounced.
Closure
That girl from the prior post, M., showed up this particular evening as well with her roommate and other friends. She actually greeted me while I was standing at the bar waiting for drinks, but her hug was distant and polite. Hrrmm. Worthy of investigation, considering that she had been basically unresponsive to my texts earlier in the week.
Fast-forward the evening to later and I run into her group in the outdoor lounge area. Talk with her and come to find out she had just broken up with her BF this past week, which explained A LOT of the minor details I'd noticed in our prior encounter.
Fast-forward to the end of the evening. I run into her leaving J Lounge and ask her what she's up to this week, to which she says, "Right now is not a good time." Understandable, given the information I'd just gleaned, so I told her that once that drama stabilizes itself to call me, after which I bid her adieu. About all that can be done and still leave the window open for future encounters.
What you did well
My kinoescalation was on-point tonight.
My banter was en fuego.
I kept my cool with M., even in light of the breaking-up information. That's the only way to play that situation, even though it was difficult to remain outcome independent.
What you did wrong and could have done better
With the black chick I should've insta-dated sooner. There was a lull about 15 minutes into the conversation where I was trying to move her to a couch, but right as I was suggesting it her friend jumped in about having to get back to their friends.
Extra Comments
I thought this was classy of M.: While meeting her friends I finally got introduced to her roommate the weed-smoker. When her roommate asked if I was the same J____ that almost schtupt'd her last week M. said, "No that was a different J____".
Sunday, April 20, 2008
A pleasant evening at J Lounge
After a full day of sorting receipts and old paperwork in my apartment I needed to get out and meet women. Sent out the bat-signal and linked up with D and his friends at J Lounge in Downtown LA.
This particular evening J Lounge was a touch on the lightly populated side but nothing I couldn't work with. The real challenge of the evening lay in the fact that it was 95% Asians in mostly large birthday groups, which means lots of light social hopping, mostly talking to the guys of the groups to see if something hooks.†
During the course of the evening in the outdoor patio I was using that OTHER universal opener, "Do you have a light?" If you're a smoker (which I am, from time to time) it'll work for you, especially if you don't really care who you get a light from. At one point I asked for a light from this girl that had been talking to D and his friends earlier in the evening and we hit it off conversationally. I wasn't "running game" or trying anything, really, I was just being my lovable, charming self. B-) Eventually her two friends drag her off inside J Lounge, so I wrote that one off as just a pleasant conversation.
Fast-forward 30 minutes: I was chatting up this Asian couple near one of the heat lamps when, out of the blue, the chick from the paragraph above comes up and tells the couple, "He's such a cool guy!" and gives me a hug.
Huh. Okay, I can run with this. :-) She was cute enough so I wanted to see where this led.
The girl (let's call her M.) is a bit quirky-- she's Korean but adopted by Caucasian parents, so the conversation was like talking with a nerdy white girl (which I can dig). She qualified herself A LOT, and I just kind of led the conversation and let her fill in the gaps, busted on her with banter from time to time and rewarded her with kino when appropriate. She eventually re-introduced me to her friends, who apparently were talking to this trio of Asian guys. I wasn't sure what the relationship was so I played it cool and social, but sticking next to M. to ramp kino and talk with her.
Eventually the trio of guys wants to buy the other two girls shots (which turns into buying all of us shots. Yay free alcohol!). I lead M. by the hand up the stairs to the main bar and start hand-testing while walking through the dark bar. She reciprocated (finger-play is soooo hot), so at that point (in my brain) I knew taking things to an intimate level was a foregone conclusion, I just needed to (A) play it cool, (B) kinoescalate and (C) don't fuck up.
We get our shots, we hit the dance floor. M. is grindin' on me, and life is good-- until one of the trio fucks up with one of the other girls and ruins the vibe. Now, this whole time I'm trying to find a way to bounce the girls with me and ditch the trio (I'm sure they're nice guys, but they were fvcking with my mojo). Eventually I get the other two girls to agree to go get some food in K-Town and we lose the guys (or so I thought).
M. and I get to a restaurant in K-Town and wait for her two friends to show up. They eventually get there, but somehow the trio followed us here which makes for an awkward dining experience. One guy is trying way too hard to game one of the girls, and it makes me sad for the guy, because the girl is blatantly not interested. We get our grub on while the farce of a conversation continues in front of us, with M. feeding me spoonfuls of food now and again.
M. gets a bit of a tummy-ache from eating too much and she wants to bounce. A bit of a wrinkle, but that's OK because I was trying to remain as outcome-independent as possible, mentally. We bid her friends and the trio adieu and I drive her back to her place. When we get there I make the excuse of needing to use her bathroom and she agrees to it.
I make my way into a darkened apartment and from an adjacent room I hear her roommate ask if she picked up some weed. I quietly make my way past her roommate's room and into M.'s room, take a leak, and come out to an already-changed-for-bed M. She says I gotta go, and I verbally agree, and make out with her anyways. :-D In between bouts of making out I just talk about random stuff and set up a time for tomorrow to link up. I push things pretty far physically but eventually get a genuine "Stop," and so I do. I quietly make my way to her front door, get a little more sugar for daddy and then I'm out like Shout™.
†If you don't have experience dealing with Asian social circles, let me tell you that you pretty much HAVE to work the guys of the group first and get them to integrate you into their social circle. It eats up a lot of time and you're going to talk to a LOT of people that you don't necessarily want to meet but 'dems the breaks if you want to get to the Asian girls in these scenarios.
This particular evening J Lounge was a touch on the lightly populated side but nothing I couldn't work with. The real challenge of the evening lay in the fact that it was 95% Asians in mostly large birthday groups, which means lots of light social hopping, mostly talking to the guys of the groups to see if something hooks.†
During the course of the evening in the outdoor patio I was using that OTHER universal opener, "Do you have a light?" If you're a smoker (which I am, from time to time) it'll work for you, especially if you don't really care who you get a light from. At one point I asked for a light from this girl that had been talking to D and his friends earlier in the evening and we hit it off conversationally. I wasn't "running game" or trying anything, really, I was just being my lovable, charming self. B-) Eventually her two friends drag her off inside J Lounge, so I wrote that one off as just a pleasant conversation.
Fast-forward 30 minutes: I was chatting up this Asian couple near one of the heat lamps when, out of the blue, the chick from the paragraph above comes up and tells the couple, "He's such a cool guy!" and gives me a hug.
Huh. Okay, I can run with this. :-) She was cute enough so I wanted to see where this led.
The girl (let's call her M.) is a bit quirky-- she's Korean but adopted by Caucasian parents, so the conversation was like talking with a nerdy white girl (which I can dig). She qualified herself A LOT, and I just kind of led the conversation and let her fill in the gaps, busted on her with banter from time to time and rewarded her with kino when appropriate. She eventually re-introduced me to her friends, who apparently were talking to this trio of Asian guys. I wasn't sure what the relationship was so I played it cool and social, but sticking next to M. to ramp kino and talk with her.
Eventually the trio of guys wants to buy the other two girls shots (which turns into buying all of us shots. Yay free alcohol!). I lead M. by the hand up the stairs to the main bar and start hand-testing while walking through the dark bar. She reciprocated (finger-play is soooo hot), so at that point (in my brain) I knew taking things to an intimate level was a foregone conclusion, I just needed to (A) play it cool, (B) kinoescalate and (C) don't fuck up.
We get our shots, we hit the dance floor. M. is grindin' on me, and life is good-- until one of the trio fucks up with one of the other girls and ruins the vibe. Now, this whole time I'm trying to find a way to bounce the girls with me and ditch the trio (I'm sure they're nice guys, but they were fvcking with my mojo). Eventually I get the other two girls to agree to go get some food in K-Town and we lose the guys (or so I thought).
M. and I get to a restaurant in K-Town and wait for her two friends to show up. They eventually get there, but somehow the trio followed us here which makes for an awkward dining experience. One guy is trying way too hard to game one of the girls, and it makes me sad for the guy, because the girl is blatantly not interested. We get our grub on while the farce of a conversation continues in front of us, with M. feeding me spoonfuls of food now and again.
M. gets a bit of a tummy-ache from eating too much and she wants to bounce. A bit of a wrinkle, but that's OK because I was trying to remain as outcome-independent as possible, mentally. We bid her friends and the trio adieu and I drive her back to her place. When we get there I make the excuse of needing to use her bathroom and she agrees to it.
I make my way into a darkened apartment and from an adjacent room I hear her roommate ask if she picked up some weed. I quietly make my way past her roommate's room and into M.'s room, take a leak, and come out to an already-changed-for-bed M. She says I gotta go, and I verbally agree, and make out with her anyways. :-D In between bouts of making out I just talk about random stuff and set up a time for tomorrow to link up. I push things pretty far physically but eventually get a genuine "Stop," and so I do. I quietly make my way to her front door, get a little more sugar for daddy and then I'm out like Shout™.
†If you don't have experience dealing with Asian social circles, let me tell you that you pretty much HAVE to work the guys of the group first and get them to integrate you into their social circle. It eats up a lot of time and you're going to talk to a LOT of people that you don't necessarily want to meet but 'dems the breaks if you want to get to the Asian girls in these scenarios.
Friday, March 7, 2008
Pickup 101's Real World Rapport Seminar
In a word: phenomenal.
I got a lot of personal value out of this weekend, despite Friday being a rehash of a lot of the stuff I teach in AoR. Personally, seeing and hearing Zan Perrion do his thing on-stage was worth the price of admission alone. I was also fortunate enough to get some one-on-one time with Decker from Authentic Man Program that really opened me up to what I'd been shielding in my heart for so long; to say it was an eye-opening experience wouldn't be a thorough enough explanation, it literally tore me open emotionally and rocked my world (in a good way).
Here's a brief recap of what the weekend was structured to be about:
The Pickup 101 Real World Rapport Seminar was basically an all-levels seminar that gave a wide -- yet thorough -- overview of that component of many mens' game that is sorely lacking: Connection. The intent of the weekend was to explain the many facets of that initial "get to know you" phase that all relationships go through and how to create deeper connections faster, in a more "natural" way*. Most people beat around the bush when connecting to others, mostly out of fear of rejection. What we teach in AoR -- and what was reinforced this weekend -- is that you, as the Man, have to be the leader in ALL aspects of the relationship, INCLUDING when becoming vulnerable. You have to be the stronger person and must lead people (guys or girls) into vulnerability.
We had several guest speakers that weekend:
-J-Dog (of VH-1's "The Pickup Artist")
-Carlos Xuma
-Eric "Disco" M. (PU101 Instructor, NYC badass)
-Dave Wygant (who the movie "Hitch" is based on)
-Brent Smith (of DYD fame)
-Dave M. (Internet dating guru)
-Grant Adams
-Zan Perrion (the motherfvcking man, IMO)
-Decker
Each of them were interwoven into the overall presentation and played to their strengths. For example David Wygant was brought on-stage on Friday to help demo some daytime openers (along with several PU101 Instructors) which were entertaining to say the least. David's got a definite gift for situational banter and he plays it to the 9's. Another example: Zan was brought on to talk about his overall inner game beliefs (it's all about being Curious and fascinated with Beauty found in Life, in all its forms) and to also demo how his day2's go (they're surprisingly bland, on the surface, but when you watch his body language and eye contact coupled with his curiosity about the girl it's $$$).
I even got my 15 minutes of fame this weekend, in two ways. The first way was when I was on-stage for an "Instant Insight©" exercise (basically cold-reading people, but with an important twist) and got to explain some of the more abstract, higher-level thinking behind why you'd want to have Instant Insight with people (especially girls). To be honest I was kind of nervous being on stage and being filmed but once I started speaking all that vanished and I felt that I was really getting through to the audience. The second half of my 15 minutes of fame came with a "backstage behind-the-scenes" videotaping session I had with Decker. This is where I had my eye-opening experience. I won't go into more detail here... I'll just say get the DVD when it comes out and see the results for yourself. :-)
My favorite part of the weekend, though, occurred after the event was done. I got the chance to kick it with Zan, Lance and company afterwards and pick their brains and just sit in their presence. It sounds geeky-fanboy to say so but it was cool for me mostly because I was sitting there was, more or less, a peer, versus just one year ago where I was just a student.
When this product launches I wholeheartedly suggest you pick it up. NO OTHER PICK UP COMPANY teaches Rapport/Connection the way WE do and this weekend was living proof of that. There's NO OTHER product out there that teaches this, and it's sad because this is the REAL MEAT of any meaningful relationship.
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*There seems to be a shift going on in the pickup community towards a more "natural" style that relies FAR LESS on long scripted routines, NLP and other weird stuff and relies more on cultivating strong "inner game" and embracing your sexual desires and love for the Feminine. PU101's stuff has been going in that direction for some time now, but I'm thinking that there's going to be a breakthrough in the community towards the next stage of "pick up" within the next year or so. There's only so many times you can ask a person "Who lies more-- men or women?" before it starts to wear thin. My hope: the next evolution of "pick up" will focus more on inner game first; if the foundation is strong, building the house is simple. :-)
I got a lot of personal value out of this weekend, despite Friday being a rehash of a lot of the stuff I teach in AoR. Personally, seeing and hearing Zan Perrion do his thing on-stage was worth the price of admission alone. I was also fortunate enough to get some one-on-one time with Decker from Authentic Man Program that really opened me up to what I'd been shielding in my heart for so long; to say it was an eye-opening experience wouldn't be a thorough enough explanation, it literally tore me open emotionally and rocked my world (in a good way).
Here's a brief recap of what the weekend was structured to be about:
The Pickup 101 Real World Rapport Seminar was basically an all-levels seminar that gave a wide -- yet thorough -- overview of that component of many mens' game that is sorely lacking: Connection. The intent of the weekend was to explain the many facets of that initial "get to know you" phase that all relationships go through and how to create deeper connections faster, in a more "natural" way*. Most people beat around the bush when connecting to others, mostly out of fear of rejection. What we teach in AoR -- and what was reinforced this weekend -- is that you, as the Man, have to be the leader in ALL aspects of the relationship, INCLUDING when becoming vulnerable. You have to be the stronger person and must lead people (guys or girls) into vulnerability.
We had several guest speakers that weekend:
-J-Dog (of VH-1's "The Pickup Artist")
-Carlos Xuma
-Eric "Disco" M. (PU101 Instructor, NYC badass)
-Dave Wygant (who the movie "Hitch" is based on)
-Brent Smith (of DYD fame)
-Dave M. (Internet dating guru)
-Grant Adams
-Zan Perrion (the motherfvcking man, IMO)
-Decker
Each of them were interwoven into the overall presentation and played to their strengths. For example David Wygant was brought on-stage on Friday to help demo some daytime openers (along with several PU101 Instructors) which were entertaining to say the least. David's got a definite gift for situational banter and he plays it to the 9's. Another example: Zan was brought on to talk about his overall inner game beliefs (it's all about being Curious and fascinated with Beauty found in Life, in all its forms) and to also demo how his day2's go (they're surprisingly bland, on the surface, but when you watch his body language and eye contact coupled with his curiosity about the girl it's $$$).
I even got my 15 minutes of fame this weekend, in two ways. The first way was when I was on-stage for an "Instant Insight©" exercise (basically cold-reading people, but with an important twist) and got to explain some of the more abstract, higher-level thinking behind why you'd want to have Instant Insight with people (especially girls). To be honest I was kind of nervous being on stage and being filmed but once I started speaking all that vanished and I felt that I was really getting through to the audience. The second half of my 15 minutes of fame came with a "backstage behind-the-scenes" videotaping session I had with Decker. This is where I had my eye-opening experience. I won't go into more detail here... I'll just say get the DVD when it comes out and see the results for yourself. :-)
My favorite part of the weekend, though, occurred after the event was done. I got the chance to kick it with Zan, Lance and company afterwards and pick their brains and just sit in their presence. It sounds geeky-fanboy to say so but it was cool for me mostly because I was sitting there was, more or less, a peer, versus just one year ago where I was just a student.
When this product launches I wholeheartedly suggest you pick it up. NO OTHER PICK UP COMPANY teaches Rapport/Connection the way WE do and this weekend was living proof of that. There's NO OTHER product out there that teaches this, and it's sad because this is the REAL MEAT of any meaningful relationship.
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*There seems to be a shift going on in the pickup community towards a more "natural" style that relies FAR LESS on long scripted routines, NLP and other weird stuff and relies more on cultivating strong "inner game" and embracing your sexual desires and love for the Feminine. PU101's stuff has been going in that direction for some time now, but I'm thinking that there's going to be a breakthrough in the community towards the next stage of "pick up" within the next year or so. There's only so many times you can ask a person "Who lies more-- men or women?" before it starts to wear thin. My hope: the next evolution of "pick up" will focus more on inner game first; if the foundation is strong, building the house is simple. :-)
Thursday, February 21, 2008
Barnes & Noble at The Grove is my new spot
About a month ago in an effort to put myself "in the environment" more I've been making myself a regular at the Barnes & Noble at The Grove on a particular weekday evening that's free in my schedule. I've found that it's actually a great environment to be in for my purposes: there's Starbucks at my beck and call; I can catch up on reading The Four-Hour Work Week (I'm about halfway through but I plan on reading it twice so I can understand and apply the principles it's teaching); and there is a higher-than-average percentage of Korean girls that show up to study or drink coffee or whatever. Sometimes I'll even go here and shoot the shizzle with my buddy K. It's just such a perfect environment for relaxing in and meeting people. There's hardly any distractions, ample lighting and plenty of coffee to fuel those last stretches of chapter to cover. :-)
As far as girls I've approached here I've approached 3 so far (on separate occasions). All of them Direct yet friendly. None of them have panned out yet, but I figure that's a matter of the Pareto Principle at play (wow, say that five times fast). Here are the breakdowns...
The first one was on my way down past the magazine racks out the door. I saw this cute Asian chick browsing the People magazines, paused to see what her situation might've been (at that time of night and day of the week it's highly likely that she was on a date), took a deep breath and approached. Went Direct, got a smile, "Hi my name's Julie." We vibed for a hot minute before mentioning that she was on a date, actually (figures, but I don't let that stop me). While talking her date shows up, some Asian dude that's mad-dogging me for talking to his chick. I greet him with a warm smile and a hearty handshake to try and get him to relax but he's not having it. I vibe with the both of them for a little bit about whatever until my buddy K. rolls up and helps me close up shop on that interaction.
I don't think there's much more I could've done with this situation. If anything I needed to act a little faster so I could get a proper amount of Rapport time with her before her man showed up, but beyond that not much more. It was still an interaction I had to do because she caught my eye in that special way.
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Second interaction was while I was sitting up at the tables near the Starbucks. While chatting it up with my buddy K. I notice this TOTALLY MY TYPE Korean girl occupy the table right in my line-of-sight. Oh my God, she was firing on all cylinders sonnnnnn! At an appropriate lull in my conversation with K. I excuse myself, take a deep breath and approach. The vibe was electric for me (and I'm sure for her), it was pretty damn close to how the Movie Moment opener is done, energy-wise.
"Hey." :-) Her name was Eunice.
It was on. SO FVCKING ON.
Until her mom showed up 3 minutes later. :-\ I had to switch gears when Mommy showed up from sexual to fun/flirty and couldn't do much else with her while Mom was present. Eunice had a BF (which, again, I don't care about; if it's on, it's on, you'll find a way to make it happen for her and still keep her not feeling like a slut) and that, coupled with Mom's presence, pretty much ended things. She offered to give me her email but I don't do emails any more-- in the past they've lead to frustration and wasted effort on my part. I had to bid her "adieu". :-(
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The third one was the most recent one which involved a Literary Legal Eagle by the name of Olivia from OH (she's not Korean, btw). Again, I was chilling with K. and my other buddy S. shotting the shit when I notice this girl lug her backpack and large-ass literature books into a tiny side-table. At first I was kind of "ehh" about her-- it wasn't a bang-on-gut-reaction like with Eunice (above). The more glances I stole at her (at one point we even had good, solid eye contact) the more interested I became in her. After about 20 minutes (yeah, I know, sometimes I take too long) I get up and talk to her. 10 minutes of Rapport which was mutual flirting and sharing on both our parts. At the end when I go for the day2 close she breaks out the "I have a BF" which seemed genuine so I didn't press it further. She gave me her email address (which I don't ask for but if she's giving it, then fine), we shoot the shit for another minute or so, then I let her get back to studying.
As far as girls I've approached here I've approached 3 so far (on separate occasions). All of them Direct yet friendly. None of them have panned out yet, but I figure that's a matter of the Pareto Principle at play (wow, say that five times fast). Here are the breakdowns...
The first one was on my way down past the magazine racks out the door. I saw this cute Asian chick browsing the People magazines, paused to see what her situation might've been (at that time of night and day of the week it's highly likely that she was on a date), took a deep breath and approached. Went Direct, got a smile, "Hi my name's Julie." We vibed for a hot minute before mentioning that she was on a date, actually (figures, but I don't let that stop me). While talking her date shows up, some Asian dude that's mad-dogging me for talking to his chick. I greet him with a warm smile and a hearty handshake to try and get him to relax but he's not having it. I vibe with the both of them for a little bit about whatever until my buddy K. rolls up and helps me close up shop on that interaction.
I don't think there's much more I could've done with this situation. If anything I needed to act a little faster so I could get a proper amount of Rapport time with her before her man showed up, but beyond that not much more. It was still an interaction I had to do because she caught my eye in that special way.
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Second interaction was while I was sitting up at the tables near the Starbucks. While chatting it up with my buddy K. I notice this TOTALLY MY TYPE Korean girl occupy the table right in my line-of-sight. Oh my God, she was firing on all cylinders sonnnnnn! At an appropriate lull in my conversation with K. I excuse myself, take a deep breath and approach. The vibe was electric for me (and I'm sure for her), it was pretty damn close to how the Movie Moment opener is done, energy-wise.
"Hey." :-) Her name was Eunice.
It was on. SO FVCKING ON.
Until her mom showed up 3 minutes later. :-\ I had to switch gears when Mommy showed up from sexual to fun/flirty and couldn't do much else with her while Mom was present. Eunice had a BF (which, again, I don't care about; if it's on, it's on, you'll find a way to make it happen for her and still keep her not feeling like a slut) and that, coupled with Mom's presence, pretty much ended things. She offered to give me her email but I don't do emails any more-- in the past they've lead to frustration and wasted effort on my part. I had to bid her "adieu". :-(
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The third one was the most recent one which involved a Literary Legal Eagle by the name of Olivia from OH (she's not Korean, btw). Again, I was chilling with K. and my other buddy S. shotting the shit when I notice this girl lug her backpack and large-ass literature books into a tiny side-table. At first I was kind of "ehh" about her-- it wasn't a bang-on-gut-reaction like with Eunice (above). The more glances I stole at her (at one point we even had good, solid eye contact) the more interested I became in her. After about 20 minutes (yeah, I know, sometimes I take too long) I get up and talk to her. 10 minutes of Rapport which was mutual flirting and sharing on both our parts. At the end when I go for the day2 close she breaks out the "I have a BF" which seemed genuine so I didn't press it further. She gave me her email address (which I don't ask for but if she's giving it, then fine), we shoot the shit for another minute or so, then I let her get back to studying.
Wednesday, February 20, 2008
There and balikbayan again
It's been ages since I've taken a proper vacation from work. In fact I don't recall ever taking a vacation of more than 3 days (aka "the long weekend") before college ended. That changed when I took a vacation with family to the Philippines recently for two weeks, partly to attend my cousin's wedding in Batangas, partly to lounge about doing nothing (or so I thought) in Cebu and Bohol. I learned a couple of things while I was out there, some of which I'll elucidate below.
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If you thought Asian girls in the 'States were shy, man, girls from the Philippines are even more shy. Shy and low self-esteem and surprised that a sexy Asian man (such as myself) would see anything in them worth getting to know. Now I'm not saying this to try and put them down or anything, God love 'em, but they make the whole "getting to know you" process a challenge, that's for certain. The whole time I was out there, every single girl I approached was shocked that I would want to talk to them. I remember one in particular verbalizing, "Why do you want to talk to me, I'm boring!" over and over again. It's kind of sad and yet also part of my challenge: I have to find that one special thing in her and show it the light of day and the brilliant light of my love *gag* ;-).
--oh yeah, Direct opening doesn't exist in the Philippines. No where. Even with the white folk vacationing there I'm 99% certain I'm the only guy in that whole frickin' nation with brass ones enough to approach a stranger and tell her she's cute and that I'd like to shag her rotten. I'd like to change that some day, but I digress...
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There are a lot of prostitutes in the Philippines, not all of which are necessarily of "legal" age. :-\ Despite all the advances in technology and economic growth the Philippines is still, by and large, a poor country (2nd world, or something close to it). Because of this and because of the large number of tourists that visit the beaches (on some of the islands) there's good money to be made in that profession.
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While I was there I spent most of my time with family or touring but in the precious moments when I could actually, you know, do what I wanted to (that's the point of a vacation, isn't it?) I was able to flirt with a couple of pinays. Here's the noteworthy ones:
1) While staying at a beach resort in Cebu I met this lil' cutey while she was sitting with her friends by the pool. It started with solid Eye Contact from a distance and a sly smile. From there it was all Presence and Eye Contact and some good kino. There was a language barrier (even though I understand Tagalog) so a lot of the interaction was broken Taglish, smiling and kino.
The main problem? Logistics, on both our parts. I was sharing a room with my family and she was there with a, ahem, "client". That didn't stop the fact that she was crazy attracted to me (I don't count specific IOIs any more, it's just a gut feeling based on her actions and I haven't been wrong yet). All we could do was flirt from afar and over text message. Ultimately the stars just didn't line up for us.
2) While killing some time at a mall in Cebu with my cousin and brother I saw this cute girl walk into the coffee shop we were in. After she bought her coffee and sat outside at a table I just said, "fvck it" and approached her Direct (yet friendly and relaxed). She was taken aback at first but started smiling and enjoying the interaction soon after.
This interaction was notable for me because I really pushed my kino with her, even kino'ing her legs and small of her back in broad daylight. When she'd call me on the kino I'd banter back with stuff like, "I'm not touching your back, you keep leaning into my hands! :-) If you keep that up I'm going to have to stop talking to you. ;-)" I would, of course, continue kinoescalating. :-)
If I had still been staying in Cebu that day I have no doubt I would've pulled her back to my hotel room. As it stands I was flying out that day with my family in an hour, so this one didn't go anywhere.
3) During my last couple of days in Manila I went with a couple of friends to a local strip club/karaoke bar. Now the way these strip club/k-bars work is, beyond the normal strip club below, there are karaoke rooms you can rent on the second floor. With these room rentals you have your choice of "female companion" taken from this large, aquarium-like viewing room (you need to see it to know what I mean, it's kind of funny).
The rude and the crude of it: you can spend time with the chick in the k-room and elect to pay an extra amount to rent a private room for an hour to schtup her. Most of my friends elected to do so. Why didn't I? Well, lemme tell ya...
The girl that I picked was... a challenge, to say the least. She looked young (well, all pinays look young) and she acted even younger. It wouldn't surprise me if she turned out to be around 16 years old, even though she said 18. She was very ticklish-- I mean, so ticklish that even placing my hand on her back made her laugh and pull away (she said that she was ticklish because she didn't know where my hands were). On top of all this was the language barrier.
So how did I handle it? Well I played it patiently and kept the energy light and fun-- there was a lot of word play (mostly through broken Taglish) and strong Eye Contact, and I eventually got her accustomed to my touch despite repeated push-off's. I took things to a sexual level by deliberately controlling her hands (with mine on top) and using them to touch herself. Eventually once everyone else left the room I took things all the way with her. She certainly wasn't ticklish by that point. ;-)
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All in all I really enjoyed my time in the Philippines. It was great to see my relatives and to flex my chick skills with the local talent. I may yet return one day, hopefully with more time to actually do what I want.
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If you thought Asian girls in the 'States were shy, man, girls from the Philippines are even more shy. Shy and low self-esteem and surprised that a sexy Asian man (such as myself) would see anything in them worth getting to know. Now I'm not saying this to try and put them down or anything, God love 'em, but they make the whole "getting to know you" process a challenge, that's for certain. The whole time I was out there, every single girl I approached was shocked that I would want to talk to them. I remember one in particular verbalizing, "Why do you want to talk to me, I'm boring!" over and over again. It's kind of sad and yet also part of my challenge: I have to find that one special thing in her and show it the light of day and the brilliant light of my love *gag* ;-).
--oh yeah, Direct opening doesn't exist in the Philippines. No where. Even with the white folk vacationing there I'm 99% certain I'm the only guy in that whole frickin' nation with brass ones enough to approach a stranger and tell her she's cute and that I'd like to shag her rotten. I'd like to change that some day, but I digress...
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There are a lot of prostitutes in the Philippines, not all of which are necessarily of "legal" age. :-\ Despite all the advances in technology and economic growth the Philippines is still, by and large, a poor country (2nd world, or something close to it). Because of this and because of the large number of tourists that visit the beaches (on some of the islands) there's good money to be made in that profession.
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While I was there I spent most of my time with family or touring but in the precious moments when I could actually, you know, do what I wanted to (that's the point of a vacation, isn't it?) I was able to flirt with a couple of pinays. Here's the noteworthy ones:
1) While staying at a beach resort in Cebu I met this lil' cutey while she was sitting with her friends by the pool. It started with solid Eye Contact from a distance and a sly smile. From there it was all Presence and Eye Contact and some good kino. There was a language barrier (even though I understand Tagalog) so a lot of the interaction was broken Taglish, smiling and kino.
The main problem? Logistics, on both our parts. I was sharing a room with my family and she was there with a, ahem, "client". That didn't stop the fact that she was crazy attracted to me (I don't count specific IOIs any more, it's just a gut feeling based on her actions and I haven't been wrong yet). All we could do was flirt from afar and over text message. Ultimately the stars just didn't line up for us.
2) While killing some time at a mall in Cebu with my cousin and brother I saw this cute girl walk into the coffee shop we were in. After she bought her coffee and sat outside at a table I just said, "fvck it" and approached her Direct (yet friendly and relaxed). She was taken aback at first but started smiling and enjoying the interaction soon after.
This interaction was notable for me because I really pushed my kino with her, even kino'ing her legs and small of her back in broad daylight. When she'd call me on the kino I'd banter back with stuff like, "I'm not touching your back, you keep leaning into my hands! :-) If you keep that up I'm going to have to stop talking to you. ;-)" I would, of course, continue kinoescalating. :-)
If I had still been staying in Cebu that day I have no doubt I would've pulled her back to my hotel room. As it stands I was flying out that day with my family in an hour, so this one didn't go anywhere.
3) During my last couple of days in Manila I went with a couple of friends to a local strip club/karaoke bar. Now the way these strip club/k-bars work is, beyond the normal strip club below, there are karaoke rooms you can rent on the second floor. With these room rentals you have your choice of "female companion" taken from this large, aquarium-like viewing room (you need to see it to know what I mean, it's kind of funny).
The rude and the crude of it: you can spend time with the chick in the k-room and elect to pay an extra amount to rent a private room for an hour to schtup her. Most of my friends elected to do so. Why didn't I? Well, lemme tell ya...
The girl that I picked was... a challenge, to say the least. She looked young (well, all pinays look young) and she acted even younger. It wouldn't surprise me if she turned out to be around 16 years old, even though she said 18. She was very ticklish-- I mean, so ticklish that even placing my hand on her back made her laugh and pull away (she said that she was ticklish because she didn't know where my hands were). On top of all this was the language barrier.
So how did I handle it? Well I played it patiently and kept the energy light and fun-- there was a lot of word play (mostly through broken Taglish) and strong Eye Contact, and I eventually got her accustomed to my touch despite repeated push-off's. I took things to a sexual level by deliberately controlling her hands (with mine on top) and using them to touch herself. Eventually once everyone else left the room I took things all the way with her. She certainly wasn't ticklish by that point. ;-)
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All in all I really enjoyed my time in the Philippines. It was great to see my relatives and to flex my chick skills with the local talent. I may yet return one day, hopefully with more time to actually do what I want.
A New Year
Man, has it really been 3 months since I've posted to this blog? So much has happened in the interim that's noteworthy (well, at least to myself) I don't even know where to begin. I guess the best way to disseminate this information is too outline it and then go into the nit-grits in separate posts. :-)
If you've ever seen me or hung out with me you know that I tend to put off a "metrosexual" vibe. Part of this is being brought up in an Asian culture, part of it is being a Virgo (Virgos are a "mutable" sign, meaning they can play the Masculine or Feminine poles of a given relationship). Because I may not be percieved (outwardly) as overly-Masculine I can get away with some pretty crazy shit, kino-wise and verbally. I think this is also why Direct works so well for me-- there's a contrast of intense Masculine direction versus a more Feminine "vibe". Not saying I'm a girlie-man or anything, though, so fvck off. ;-)
In any case I'll be following up this post with more details of what's been my going-on lately in terms of chicks.
Happy New Year!
- Went on vacation to the Philippines, had sexytimes
- Been going to the Barnes & Noble at The Grove regularly to read a book and flirt with girls
- Taught at another AoA weekend (sort of)
- Less words in Attraction and Rapport
- More assertive kino right off the bat
- Tighter non-verbal communication (body language, eye contact, kino)
- Stronger "Frame" (if she's talking to me, she likes me, so it's "on" and I go for what I want)
If you've ever seen me or hung out with me you know that I tend to put off a "metrosexual" vibe. Part of this is being brought up in an Asian culture, part of it is being a Virgo (Virgos are a "mutable" sign, meaning they can play the Masculine or Feminine poles of a given relationship). Because I may not be percieved (outwardly) as overly-Masculine I can get away with some pretty crazy shit, kino-wise and verbally. I think this is also why Direct works so well for me-- there's a contrast of intense Masculine direction versus a more Feminine "vibe". Not saying I'm a girlie-man or anything, though, so fvck off. ;-)
In any case I'll be following up this post with more details of what's been my going-on lately in terms of chicks.
Happy New Year!
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